In the wise words of S&M... "The Challenger stem is back friends... and yes, it's exactly the same as the original. So obviously, this hunk of awesome is much too heavy for you new-school-weight-whores at 12.8 oz. Any heavier and you might get too buff from the work out and be unable to fit in your sister's jeans...bummer, I know"
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